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templejazz82

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Help Me, Please!
« on: May 16, 2008, 05:01:00 PM »
Just an FYI- I posted this in the Condo section as well.

Hello Folks- I am new here, as of 5 minutes ago.  I just bought a townhouse and want to use a portion of the basement for teaching drums and recording music.  Now, I know people on other forums have said "it is impossible to be 100 percent soundproof" and "unless you have alot of $$$, dont waste your time".  I am looking to get the best STC for my buck, without spending thousands of dollars.  Right now, the contruction I have is a concrete wall in the basement, which is the one shared wall with our neighbors.  This is an END unit townhouse, by the way.  The ceilings are 8 feet high.  Right now, the concrete wall, which I beleive is 8" thick, is finished on both sides (my house and his house).  Both finishing is done with Single Drywall over 2x4 studs.  My plan was to A) rip down what is existing there and put up either a Double wall (2x4, 4" of space, 2x4), or put up a 2x6 staggered stud wall, or B) put additional drywall over the existing drywall (it is 5/8" thick).  I have the option to do both, so what would be the best method for that wall? 

Also, I am thinking of doing something to the ceiling.  Right now, it is a drop ceiling with 2x2' panals.  I can replace that as well, if nessecary. 

Since the teaching will provide good income, spending a little is an option.  Again, not thousands and thousands, but you get the point.  Also, I have a few people helping me with the contruction itself.

Thanks for any advice you have.

Matt

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Re: Help Me, Please!
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 03:14:14 PM »
Matt,
Double wall or staggered studs are both good ways of decoupling, Use Cotton fiber insulation in the walls along with MLV sound barrier.
http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/natural_fiber.htm
http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/flooring.htm
The combination of your 8" concrete block and these materials will yield good results without breaking the bank and if you wanted to step it up a notch more you could also add double layer drywall with Green Glue sandwiched between.
http://www.soundproofing.org/ggpages.htm
You need to close up your ceiling with cotton fiber and MLV and float it on isoltaion clips and drywall furring channel, double drywall and green glue. Considering you have the added concrete walls and double wall system the ceiling will be the weakest STC in the room so go all out on the ceiling at least.
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templejazz82

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Re: Help Me, Please!
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 02:07:12 PM »
Randy, thank you so much.  My Uncle has a pretty good room at his house, and I was talking to him the other night.  He also mentioned that the concrete wall is a big help.  I am going to try to get over to the new place (We close in a week) and get some measurements.  After reading some more, I have found that the ceiling could be the hardest part.  For a double wall, should I do 4" wall, 4" space, 4" wall?  Should the inside wall be leaned againts the concrete or should any space be left there?

Thanks guys!

templejazz82

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Re: Help Me, Please!
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 02:14:02 PM »
Also, because I have the concrete wall, would a double wall or staggered stud wall have any advantages?  Is a double wall needed because of the concrete or would a staggered stud with double drywall on both sides be ok?

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Re: Help Me, Please!
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2008, 06:47:03 PM »
Matt,
Staggered stud wall will be fine, just be aware of connection points to excisting structure.
These are the areas where vibration and structure borne noise will travel, use Isolation padding tape in those areas.
http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/Tape.htm
You will need to close the back side of these walls to create dead air space.
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templejazz82

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Re: Help Me, Please!
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2008, 07:20:42 PM »
Randy- Thanks for the help.  I think a staggered stud would be better because it would save some space. 

 

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