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Noisy house that shakes!!!
« on: March 25, 2010, 05:08:40 PM »
Hi All,

A little background... we moved to a larger house last year in a particular area that we liked. In order to afford this area and the house size that we wanted, we opted for a house on a busier street. The home was built in 2004 and we moved here in the summer of 2009. Honestly we knew there would be traffic and the car noises really don't bother us that much.

It's a two story home. The first story is block and the second story is wood frame with hardie siding.

The real issue we have is we are near a port so we have semi trucks passing through fairly often. The speed limit on our street is 30 mph but many cars and semi trucks go atleast 45 mph. Cars are tolerable but when the semi trucks speed by it is loud and the second story even shakes a bit. It's like a rumble and we can feel the floor vibrate and even the walls. Sometimes, we feel this downstairs but not as noticeable as upstairs.

We have small children and one of their bedrooms is upstairs and faces the street. I plan on buying some soundproof windows for that room to help ease some of the noise. Honestly, the kids sleep right through the noise but it would be nice to quite it down anyway...  :)

All the bedrooms are upstairs. What can we do about vibrations on the second floor when these semi trucks drive by at 50 mph? Downstairs has wood floors but upstairs is carpet. Will switching to tile or hardwood upstairs help or would it just make the noise worse?

Thanks for your input!  ???

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 06:11:07 PM »
Switching to wood floors will make it worse....
This is a very difficult situation because truely this is ground vibration coming in through your foundation especially since it vibrates the whole house.
The correct course of action is to decouple from the structure which will deliver the best reduction, Im just not sure if it is possible without having to float the entire room.
Maybe we can look at a dampening approach which would be less aggresive and costly.
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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 01:37:40 PM »
Hi Randy,

Sorry for the late reply. I was planning on calling you but I decided to wait a while to see if I would get used to the vibrations. To no surprise, I have not!

You mentioned "floating the room", would installing a floating floor like laminate help?

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 03:35:48 PM »
Installing a laminate will not deliver much if the whole house is vibrating, I think a floating floor on vibration pads will deliver far better results for the floor and then apply a dampening compound and new drywall for the walls and ceiling will deliver a reduction from wall/ceiling vibration.
The end results will be the floor will not feel like its shaking and you will get a reduction from the walls/ceiling vibration.
I would feel alot better if you give me a call so we can discuss particulars just in case there is another approach.
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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 03:30:22 AM »
Greeting from Sound-Answers.com

This is a very difficult situation (ground-borne noise & vibration being transmitted into your house structure).  We are sorry that we cannot provide any solution on the 'receiving' (house) side.  From your description, it seems that things are not as bad when the trucks are traveling at lower speeds (per speed limits).  If this is true, then you may want try doing a little legwork and talking with your neighbors (other affected parties).  Collectively you may be able to petition your local municipality for speed control devices.  Along with noise/vibration, include safety in your petition.  We wouldn't suggest that you press for any devices that make the trucks stop (stop signs, untimed lights, speed bumps, etc.) because you will then be dealing with noise as the trucks brake and accelerate again.  Petition for greater police presence, signs stating that the area is monitored for speed, signs that show vehicle speed, etc.  Discuss options with your local representative.  It may also help to see if there is a history of accidents or fatalities on this road.

We wish you the best of luck!

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 02:32:24 PM »
Hi All,

I am picking this up again... Through a little digging, I found out the our road will be repaved next year. Hopefully, that will help a bit but I am not so sure...

Anyway, I find myself noticing homes on busy roads a lot more now... One thing I noticed is that some homes have concrete block walls in the front yard instead of a picket or chain link fence.

While I will not be able to put up a tall block wall, something about 3 feet high might work. My idea would involve digging a deep footer (and filling it with concrete) along the front of the property line, where the block wall would sit. I am thinking the footer would absorb much of the ground vibrations that are created when the large semi trucks drive by (before it gets the the house).

Do you think this would work? If so, how deep would the footer need to be? Assuming this would work, would I have to take it across the whole front including the driveway?

Thanks for your feedback!

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 03:18:25 PM »
Sry but I doubt that has any impact on your noise problem. The wave is as big as your house by the time it reaches you.
Please contact me direct so I can help you reduce this problem without wasted efforts or money.

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 05:46:41 PM »
Thanks Randy. However at this point, the "noise" is not my main concern.

The "vibrations" coming up through the foundation are the nuisance. Are you saying a concrete wall with a footer about 3 - 4 feet deep will not absorb the vibrations before they hit the foundation?

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 06:37:21 PM »
 yes that is what im saying All sound is vibration just at different speeds and wave size. The speed of sound through concrete is 10,600 FPS which 8x faster than air borne 1129 FPS.
Please give me a call, so I can fill you in on the principles and you will be able to assess value of your project.
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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 05:51:17 AM »
I have a similar problem. The bedroom has carpet & is on the 2nd floor above the garage and the house is relatively close to a freeway (400 feet or so).  The bedframe and new bed vibrates, especially in the morning.  The bedframe does not have a boxspring since the bedframe has 2 draws in the end.  When i use to have my spring matress bed on the floor on top of a boxspring, the vibration wasnt too bad, but now with the new foam bed on a bedframe, it is really noticable.

Does going from a foam bed as oppose to a traditional matress vibrate more?

I would like to keep the new foam bed on the bedframe.  Would it be possible to help the vibration by putting some sort of effective vibration absorption pads under the bedframe?  If so, what would be recommended?

Also, the freeway is currently being redone and i believe they will be putting in soundwalls.  Is it possible that the soundwalls may help the vibration?

Any help would be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 05:49:24 PM »
Ok, lets do a test.... take dry wash cloths fold them into quarters and put them under the corners of the frame...depending on the frame you might need more than 4 to decouple the bed from the floor.

If you experience a decent reduction than purchase our dimple pads and replace the wash cloths.

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Make sure the bed does NOT touch the wall.
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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 02:24:49 AM »
Great, im all for the test, but i have a question.....

The bedframe has 4 corners legs, then there is a support section that runs in the middle of the bed (kind of splits the bed into a his and hers section).  Its a series of flat wood pieces that the bunky board and my bed sits on.  I think every other wood piece has a small leg that sits on the ground.  I believe there are there for extra support of the matress. There is a total of 4 legs for these flat wood pieces.  Also, the draws under the bed is supported by two of the bedframe legs and 2 smaller legs as well. 

My question is should i put the wash cloths on just the 4 bed corners or the 6 smaller legs also?  The reason i ask is the smaller legs would require removal of the matress to get to the legs.  The 4 bed corners are more accessiable.  I cant imagine that the smaller legs would be able to tranfer the vibrations, but then again, please you tell me what your thoughts are.

Thanks again!
April.

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 03:21:07 PM »
Your main goal is to separate the bed frame from the floor, the carpet is obviously not enough. The wood will transmit vibration and sound 12x faster than airborne noise. If you can get separation you should notice an immediate change if there is 1 piece still in contact you most likely will see no change or very little.
I do not want to make this a lot of work, however I also do not want you wasting money on materials that do not deliver results.

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2011, 03:47:48 AM »
Ok, so we found some garage mats we happen to have lying around and cut them to put under all the bed legs.  We thought this should work as good or better than wash cloths,but perhaps we were wrong....

Its been a week and i do not notice a difference in the vibrations...
It may have helped slightly, but not enough to make a difference for me.

Were we wrong to think the garage mats were going to be as good or better than the wash cloths?  If so, do you suggest we try the cloths?  If not, what other things can we try.  The garage mats are a foam material that are similar to this.

http://www.sears.com:80/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00962361000P?prdNo=7&blockNo=7&blockType=G7

Again Thanks so much for your help.

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Re: Noisy house that shakes!!!
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2011, 01:27:34 PM »
Why not get 4 plastic plant pots, fill each of them with cloth, sit the legs in them and the pots on your garage mats? Maybe cut and double stack the mats while your at it. Sounds like you need more separation/desorption.