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JordanSalahi

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Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« on: February 09, 2012, 02:52:49 AM »
I just bought my first place in NJ in a complex which was built in the mid 80's. My neighbors bedroom is directly above mine with two people, a 2 year old and a terror of a dog.  Wait it gets better... they wake up at 5am, Evert!!! I HEAR EVERYTHING!!!!

What is the best solution for reducing/eliminating the noise problem from below. Upstairs, they have a carpeted floor but it's most likely original, if not 10+ years old, so I assume there's barley, if any padding underneath.  I have contemplated offering to contribute towards a new pad, but do not want to spend a lot of money and if they sell their home; It's been on the market for months.  Theres no guarantee that the new owner will keep whatever we buy.

If money was no object, whats the best thing to do!

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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 03:29:08 AM »
There are a few options here, the best option is addressing from the source. It could be a simple as just changing the carpet padding up to a decoupled ceiling system.

What is the floor/ceiling assembly?

example:
2"x10" joist w/ 5/8" plywood/ insulation/ 5/8" drywall....
or
concrete 6" / open beam..
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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 03:44:12 AM »
I don't know any of the specs. The ceiling was finished when I moved in.  I did have 4 high hats installed and my electrician mentioned that I had standard bays in between my ceiling and the plywood from above, with no insulation.  I have yet to speak with my neighbor from above and don't know what, if anything he would be willing to do. My hopes were that the new owner would want to replace the carpet, because the cuurent owner has a dog, and contibute to an upgraded pad, but who knows, he might want hardwood!! 

I have been reading up about this decoupling technique, but if it could be fixed with simply installing a new pad upstairs.. I could find a other things to do with that $$

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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 04:00:47 AM »
I understand what your saying with saving money, but you need to understand that impact noise/footfall is the hardest source to reduce...in order to achieve the best results you want to get it at the source, if you address the receiving end the wall become part of the equation for sound to be remitted. The amount of material and effort will also increase if you need to address the problem from below...
It can be done, it is all about cost vs. reduction

Can you hear human speech or TV noise? and if so, is it intelligible?
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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 04:12:52 AM »
I hear unintelligible voices, but the babies crying and dog barking is very clear. My main complaint is the foot noise. It sounds like they are stomping on their heels as they walk.  I am willing to spend a decent amount of money, but I am just concerned that if I spend the money for a new pad in a property that I don't own, there would be nothing to stop the new owner from throwing it away. 

Would installing a clip and channel system over my existing sheetrock reduce any of that deep bass heard from the walking... or should I focus on gaining access to the floor upstairs?

Thanks for the help

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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 04:30:08 AM »
No problem helping :) that is what we are here for...

If you want my opinion here's the way I look at cost vs. reduction in your situation..... unless your CCR's have a set IIC minimum rating listed, prohibiting the change of flooring without addressing sound control than as an owner I would invest in my own place and I would do it to provide reduction weather the floor above had carpet or hardwood. Otherwise you can invest in a sound control system that counts on carpet and padding in the assembly which does not provide the same reduction as a system for hardwood flooring...big difference....

BUT.....

The cost to replace carpet padding to a heavy #8 lb. padding is by far the cheapest...now that would only reduce some of the impact/footfall about 30%.. you will still hear the voices and dogs clearly unless you add a underlayment of Mass loaded vinyl w/closed cell foam or similar product to control airborne noise increase to 50% reduction and you must remove recessed lighting. Which would increase the cost to around $4.00 sqft.

tough call.. If I could see myself living there for a long time...go the distance..if not crunch the numbers and see for yourself.

A standard hardwood floor ceiling system can cost $12.00 sqft. just for soundproofing materials not including labor / drywall or fasteners...50% reduction of hardwood impact noise.

Like I said, cost vs. reduction :)
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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 04:48:54 AM »
Thank you! I am going to call you tomorrown morning to discuss some options

Jordan

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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 05:16:39 AM »
Your welcome... I will be in the office at 8:00 a.m. PST call anytime after.
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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 06:17:11 PM »
Randy- Do you know of any contractors that you could recomend in northern NJ to install cellulose?

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Re: Heavy foot noise from above! HELP!!
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 06:35:03 PM »
No, I really dont know any contractors that would install cellulose, I would call a few insulation companies not contractors.
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