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Author Topic: 2nd window inserts or ???  (Read 5260 times)

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2nd window inserts or ???
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:50:45 AM »

Hello,

We built a house on a small lot in the middle of an alley. First mistake :) LOL. The house is only a year old, so we have new Milgard dual pane windows, single hung and I am sure we didn't opt for the BEST insulation for the walls. Argh :( The noise from the alley is horrendous!!! Car doors, car alarms, horns honking, barking dogs and scavengers banging around the recyclables at all hours. We are going nuts.

Anywho I have researched and came to the conclusion that a second window at each window may be the best option. Got a quote from SoundproofWindows.com, it was about 9k without install which was close to the other soundproof window company in SF. I looked at the MagnaSeal option, but wont work on sliding glass doors and would prefer to be able to open windows.  Our sills are about 5" from existing windows, and would need about 1-2" allowance for the Roman shades. Would a second regular glass window be just as good as the soundproofwindows.com windows? Plexiglass? Any suggestions for this type of noise control?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

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Re: 2nd window inserts or ???
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 04:17:21 AM »

 Thank for doing your due diligence!, it makes it easier for me :)
ok this is a serious issue which I have dealt with before...You can do a double window treatment, which is the best + greatest air gap. Based on best possible reductions from a single wall assembly  most any system with a thickness of 1/4" or greater with glass or acrylic or a product the has a 20 STC or greater and air tight. It really is the gap size which dominates reduction..(ave.6 STC per 1" of gap).
In a home however, you share the same wall construction and window box from source to receiver. In the end this path will remain and dictate diminishing point of return.. for that price + installation you most likely could sound proof the whole wall and window system depending on size.

What is your current wall assembly from outside in?

Are you elevated from the source? single or 2 story?

What size wall?


 
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Re: 2nd window inserts or ???
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 04:22:26 PM »

Thanks for your response Randy :)

Answers below

What is your current wall assembly from outside in? It is fiber cement siding, plywood, 2x4 construction and basic insulation. Unfortunately we had to build cheap :(

Are you elevated from the source? single or 2 story? A bit, we are on a raised foundation, and it is a 2 story.

What size wall? Entire house (under 1100 sq ft- footprint 566 sq ft), alley runs past 3 sides of house, noise from all 4 :( build cheap = Alley house.. lol

We do have a lot of windows for a small house and each wall has it's downfall with either windows, sliding glass door, outside utility boxes, holes for dryer vents etc. I also remember thinking that the insulation surrounding the windows didn't fill the gaps :(

for some reason we can even hear the cars splashing in the water puddles.. Now that ain't right!! LOL


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Re: 2nd window inserts or ???
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 04:32:00 PM »

Ok, we are going to have some work to do.

Please contact me directly.

1-888-942-7723

Randy S. ext 104
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Re: 2nd window inserts or ???
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 04:38:56 PM »

We are in San Diego, will you be at the store tomorrow morning?

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Re: 2nd window inserts or ???
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 04:43:43 PM »

Yes, we are open from 8:00 am to 12:00 Noon and I will be here.
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Re: 2nd window inserts or ???
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 04:46:47 PM »

Cool :) we are going to try and go there. Is there anything we should bring to help come up with a plan of action? Plans? Pics?

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Re: 2nd window inserts or ???
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 05:01:02 PM »

Sure, pics of windows...layout/measurements of your home, and any venting that is under the raised foundation.

Avid fan of Turko files :) "It Ain't Right!" :D

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