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joanne

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need advice on silent board, or whatever else to use
« on: July 30, 2012, 08:57:07 PM »
I need help. I am really confused about the sound proofing I am being offered. Will it work? I own a concrete semi detached. I had neighbours before, and never heard them. I switched to wooden floors and still didnt hear my neighbours. My old neighbours past away, and their son (who also lived there) sold the house. The new people moved in. They knocked down a wall inside the house, and put down wooden floors. Now I live in hell.

Their living room is next to mine devided by the partition wall. Our master bedrooms are above the our living rooms (and use this same partition wall (which is concrete we are sure). Our living rooms are through, open plan, to the dinning room. And, there's a wall between the dinning room to the kitchen (which they have knocked out and we have not). Their down stairs is now an L shape. Problem is, we can now hear coughing, burping, yelling, screaming, their TV, their radio, and talking. We hear every plug being put in the wall, the hoover like its in my house. This are pretty bad. If I go into my bedroom above my living room, I can hear EVERYTHING in their living room magnified. I hear every conversation. As these people are inconciderate, young yobos,  dont work, and pull all night drinking binges, we cant sleep. I have basically taken to living in my kitchen, and going out during the day if I can, but I need to sleep.

We have been offered silent board, which we are told we need to basically just screw into the concrete in the living room, dinning room, and bedroom, and have been told we can paper straight over this once we have sealed the joins and edges. We are told that this is going to cost us £1,500. But, every time I look on the internet, people say your supposed to have resiliance bars? And other stuff. Also screws act like amplifers? I am totally confused on what to do next. Its a lot of money if its not going to work. Help. Please. Someone give me some advice. 

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Re: need advice on silent board, or whatever else to use
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2012, 03:48:04 PM »
If the wall is made concrete then it should already have a descent STC rating...how thick is the wall?

It is absolutely correct that you should use some form of decoupling (ie: new framing not touching the concrete wall, clips and channel or at least resilient channel.) this is the only wall a system will work that is attached to concrete walls... just adding more mass will yield little results at this point...

I am really surprised you would be hearing things in such detail through a concrete wall....can you provide me with the whole wall assembly?
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joanne

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Re: need advice on silent board, or whatever else to use
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2012, 08:44:32 PM »
Firstly, thank you for your reply. We dont know how thick the actual wall is. The building was made in the 50's, and from what I have been told this is happening because both ourselves and our neighbours have laminate floors upstairs and downstairs (so the partition wall is acting like a giant drum skin). I also assume as they have turned their dinning room and old kitchen into one huge kitchen with patio door out to the garden, no curtains, and have with no door to divide this new kitchen from their living room - their whole place is acting like a giant cave, and the sound is echoing/bouncing off all the hardness to their rooms.

We ourselves have nets up, thick linned curtains, throws, pictures up etc, etc. They, from what I can see have no soft furnishings at all. Not even curtains. Before, when my other neighbours lived there. We never heard anything, but they had carpet in every room, and a lot of soft furnishings, and we also had carpet. We changed from carpet to laminate wood cos we bought a long haired cat, and we still didnt hear the our neighbours, but when the switch over happened, and the new people moved in ripping out the carpets.. we started to hear the noise..

By wall assembly, I am not sure what you mean, but I can tell you this information.. The wall our side is concrete thats been plastered over (not plaster boarded over), and it has thick wallpaper over the top of the plaster thats been painted. The wall runs the length of the house, and has no chinney breast. Our chinney breast is not connected to theirs in anyway. The partition wall has been channelled out for electrics points when it was built. So, their is a double plug point in the living room on this wall. Two in the dinning room, and upstairs their are the same. I know 100% next door have had new electics because the neighbour on the other side of me put them in for him. He is an electrictrian, BUT where he has put them, and where they have drilled I do not know.
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Re: need advice on silent board, or whatever else to use
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2012, 09:09:05 PM »
Joanne,

Homes that consist of plaster on walls/ ceilings make it very difficult to get outstanding results and we take projects like this very serious because it is really hard to estimate reductions.
What I would like to do is have you give me a call direct so we can discuss the options, I want to make sure we are on the same page when it comes to cost vs. reduction.
It  is not uncommon to do a soundproofing project and yield little to no reduction.

Here is our toll free number please call.

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joanne

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Re: need advice on silent board, or whatever else to use
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 09:44:56 PM »
I think the number you have given me is from the united states? I am from the uk. I have just found out from hubby that these plug holes on the partition wall were channelled out by the electrictian we used to wire the house.. so they are new. Also not sure if I mentioned but we have an arch that devided our dinning room to the living room (and this arch we put in. Its not brick). Its plaster board and it attaches it self from the patition wall to the chinney breast (thats away from the patition wall). Cost wise.. I was quoted £6,000 for the living room and dinning room (and they were going to basically build a new wall decoupled from the main one. But we dont have the money or the space for that.. its a tiny living room, tiny dinning room. I have £2,000 max to do what I can. I was then, as you know offered this silent board screwed to the wall (which I know isnt going to work now). I am looking for a reduction of 50% if I can.. muffled screams and yelling is better than full on screaming and yelling. I can live with muffled :)

 

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